firearms seized by police in the last five years were purchased just outside the city limits. 1,300 from one store alone. assault weapons and high capacity magazines abound in chicago. but still that city saw more than 500 gun homicides last year alone. assuming your bill passes, how is it possible to determine if someone is a straw purchaser and how can a store be held liable for a straw purchase? >> well, let me give you an example. >> thank you. >> we have a situation where a number of guns that ended up in oakland that came from georgia, and they were bought by a straw purchaser. a woman in georgia bought guns for her boyfriend who had a criminal record. you know what he did then? he then sends them -- sells them to folks in oakland. the point is that this goes to that straw purchaser. it's going to cause them to say, wait a minute, cause a woman like that to say, maybe i shouldn't be doing this because i may be facing 20 years in jail. that's how a lot of guns get to places like baltimore, get to places like oakland. and so this is going to address that problem, and i'm convinc